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Panelists, but it has been quite a year on that front, but what about what's happening in the democratic party. what is their headline? >> they will go with more of a mainstream pick and maybe tom perez and we will see an ongoing civil war. is this going to be the party of bernie sanders or progressives and tim ryan and rust belt issues. >> who is the democratic party and they have to find someone to rally behind. is it bernie sanders or a new face we haven't yet seen? >> i don't think it can be bernie sanders because he is not a democrat. donald trump is not really a republican. he didn't joi...

Land use planning manual? you can get too much in the weeds as a politician but i think people want their presidents to actually have some substantive grasp of the main issues of the and the thing about trump that strikes me as -- he doesn't want to do the work. >> i mean it's almost as if it's beneath him to dot homework he would be required to be president. is that going to fly, kim? >> no it's not. i mean everything he talked about -- joe alluded to this. the single payer health care thing, he seemed to be absolutely oblivious to the fact that conservatives despise this idea and said well y...