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As a matter of principle because the heightened threshold will ensure the level of scrutiny you think necessary for the stakes of a seat like this. >> when we change the rules or had to change the rules in order to make sure the president actually got his cabinet because of all of the obstruction going on we purposefully did not change the threshold for the highest court in the land, the supreme court, because this is the place where people need to come together, you need to have a mainstream pick, this is about somebody who will uphold the constitution and not be ideologically extreme one way...

Michigan so i want to see a 60-vote threshold because i think that's what it deserves. >> i want to be clear. a 60-vote threshold, you're saying it should be filibustered as a matter of principle because the heightened threshold will ensure the level of scrutiny you think necessary for the stakes of a seat like this. >> when we change the rules or had to change the rules in order to make sure the president actually got his cabinet because of all of the obstruction going on we purposefully did not change the threshold for the highest court in the land, the supreme court, because this is the pla...

Really challenge this president who even his own party has questioned whether or not he truly meets their bar of a conservative. many still say he's a liberal democrat who ran as a conservative republican. >> right. and this is the big difference between what we just saw as you were pointing out, chairman, plem, giving us a sense of his policy priority. those are order that can only go so far. the pick for the sport is one of the most important things. and as you see it will battle both what conservative republicans expect is a major priority and also what democrats are willing to afford becau...

He has to get democratic votes or we'll have endless nominations and hearings and no justice. >> this is likely the first full fledged for fight. >> absolutely. this is the biggest decision a president makes t has permanent or long-term consequences unlike anything else. as greta was mentioning there say view, chuck schumer told rachel maddow this is not a "mainstream pick" he is open to leaving the seat i have cant, coming off a period of time where democrats are frustrated with what's happened before. having said that the blame goes on both sides when it comes to judicial confirmation battle...

Panelists, but it has been quite a year on that front, but what about what's happening in the democratic party. what is their headline? >> they will go with more of a mainstream pick and maybe tom perez and we will see an ongoing civil war. is this going to be the party of bernie sanders or progressives and tim ryan and rust belt issues. >> who is the democratic party and they have to find someone to rally behind. is it bernie sanders or a new face we haven't yet seen? >> i don't think it can be bernie sanders because he is not a democrat. donald trump is not really a republican. he didn't joi...