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Guy who has an obvious perhaps ax to grind against my client. he has been steadfast in his criticism. he essentially has had this air of why is it just me who was actually the person who was having this happen to and so in that respect, you're going to lead with that. it's better. this has happened before the idea of attacking someone's credibility. it is really key to any defense, cooperating witnesses. the prosecution is going to argue. yes he has this history of lying. yes he was convicted of perjury. but he did that all when he was with donald trump, and since then they'll argue he's come ...

It was a credibility issue. and rebuttal closing, the prosecutor did a great job. he called this a cse case common sense case, go with your gut instinct. and one other thing i want to mention a real game changer in this case where the shell casings and remember the prosecutors found shell casings all around the compound, right? and they also found shell casings next to the two bodies. those shell casings match the two gunsmithing by the anthonymurdaughfamily. there is nobody else that could have done this murder because they would have had to show up at the kennel instead of the house at the r...

Their most vulnerable time. so that's the reason we see so much on these particular issues, where he stole money from his clients, really humanizing these victims and saying this guy is capable of really lying to anyone, including you, members of the jury. >> right. and not only to his clients but they pointed out, the prosecutors were clear to point out a number of times that the clients that murdaugh had were children, underaged kids who had suffered horrible tragedies. joey, do you think the cross-examination was effective today? >> i think so far it lays out certainly that he's a liar, tha...

Despite that, so if you're lying about your mom and 9/11 -- >> yeah, saying that there's a credibility issue or trust issue is really putting it mildly at this point. we just don't know what else he's lied about, what else is going to come out but, you know, for now he's still in congress. >> he is and the former new york congressman from the same area of new york pete king, moderate republican was in congress for quite some time. homeland security committee after 9/11 so the 9/11 thing i think burns peter quite well. the truth is mr. santos is hurting the house many of us love dragging down t...

Shake out. though he is denying these reports, of course. he has credibility issue. right? these similar allegations came out against governor brian kemp or other republicans and they flat out tonight, it there would be a significant number of republicans here who believed them. but herschel walker, in his case, you have seen all sorts of ads and damaging news reports and other, you know, other parabolic airings of his lies, his exaggerations. exaggerations of his conspiracy theories. a falsehoods. and that is undercut his credibility. so i'm hearing from republicans, even before, this that ce...