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Capitol hill next week. >> mr. cohen clearly had some significant credibility problems. prosecutors and agents have a lot of experience working with witnesses that have credibility problems. >> what he really did yesterday was create a whole bunch of additional witnesses that the house is now empowered to try to bring before them. folks like allen weisselberg at the trump organization, the president's children. >> the good news is what we did see out of the michael cohen testimony was there was a lot positive for the president. he confirmed what we've all said, that there was no collusion with...

Think that we're in a different phase because all of those crimes you indicated in the investigation, not only by robert mueller but also in the southern district of new york, in the eastern district of virginia, these criminal investigations are spread among them and cohen has been a powerful and compelling witness. >> you believed him yesterday? >> he has credibility problems because he lied to congress before. >> lied to congress before but has a long record of lying all over the place. >> he has a long record of lying and he worked for a gentleman who has a record of allegedly lying, but r...

Where the investigation could go beyond mueller could also play to president trump's strength. i mean, you know, i said yesterday that michael cohen had serious credibility problems but he was utterly believable. but on some of these matters he doesn't actually give you much with regard to the russia investigation. so when the president stands up and says, well, there's nothing on russia collusion, this image of democrats going down these new avenues could also strengthen the president politically because they look like they're looking everywhere for possible misconduct by the president for so...

Ongoing investigation and of course, there will be a lot of questions. he also said he didn't have come with the president never directed him to make that payment. he said he understood that that is what the president wanted based on what he said, but that is clearly part of the ongoing investigation. what did you think of the fact that he said he did not see collusion between russia and the trump administration, which obviously, was the motive behind forming a special counsel in the first place. >> sean: that is an important piece of testimony for mr. cohen and we will go into that in greater...

I've ever seen. that's how he speaks. he doesn't give you questions. he didn't give you orders. he speaks in a code, and i understand the code because i've been around him for a decade. >> and it's your impression others who work for him understand the code as well? >> most people, yes. >> do you dispute any of that? >> what i would say as a pros r prosecutor that's not enough to convict somebody beyond a reasonable doubt. sorry. >> the president isn't on trial. >> the end game here, isn't it, nicolle? >> you tell me. >> nobody cares, nobody cares what michael cohen says from a criminality per...