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This is a liar going to prison for lying to congress. but, on the other hand, you have democrats and responsible republicans who are going to say we have heard a lot about paul manafort bringing jeopardy to the president of the united states. this guy really potentially brings jeopardy to the president because he's on the inside. he's the so-called fixer. he may have documents. he may have tapes. he may have all kinds of incriminating evidence there. and then furthermore, we may hear reports that some reporting might come in from him saying that the cfo of the trump organization was also part ...

It includes the president's entanglements. we're going to see what prosecutors go through the first time you sit down with a cooperating witness. on the one hand you have the thrill if you have someone who can take you inside these closed rooms is tell you what happened behind closed doors. it's open game. what were your private conversations with the president? what was he involved in? that's fascinating and some of exhilerating. on the other hand, i think people will struggle with the credibility question, do i trust this guy? is he credible? is he backed up? what are his motivations now. mi...

Somebody would be tried. >> harris: that's why the arena matters. because this thing gets thrown into politics. >> judge napolitano: does it have credibility question went to the people exercising levels of power have credibility? that the decision to be made by the people of virginia. >> lisa: i think the answer to that -- i'm a virginian, and i don't think these lawmakers have credibility. i was one of the ones during the kavanaugh hearing, i believe in due process. what's so difficult about the situation with justin fairfax, it's very difficult to get them on foot. i will say there is more ...

Michael cohen they say, he's a liar, why would you believe anything he says. michael cohen has admitted to breaking the law by not telling the truth to people who were looking to get the truth from him. the white house and officials and others outside but inside the president's orbit that we talked to continue to point to that. again, he's headed to prison soon for crimes that he has admitted to doing. he pointed the finger at the president as the president who directed him to do that, chris. >> the credibility question is still one that lingers over cohen. >> halie jackson with the breaking n...

Witness or one that would have zero credibility issues, we pass that had exit long ago. the idea that we have a president of the united states who is largely accused of a credibility question. it is a cancellation. number two, that's in nature the essence of a cooperation agreement. you scratch our backs. we will scratch yours. the big question, whether someone has secured him to give false testimony to secure the mo most, it would lead cohen to believe that the sweetest of deals is the one that led to the misleading congress and not