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Making statements which are clear and declarative and that certainly not in the nature of the japanese government or in the history of the japanese government, but this is a time when people want transparency and honesty and most of the people i talked to don't feel they are getting that at this point. >> not getting it. it was a weak government to begin with. this is a major credibility test. let's take a minute. we are justifiably spending most of our time looking at the nuclear emergency and trying i get better information but from day five to day six, i mentioned the better weather conditi...

And they protest the regimes that we don't particularly like and then we immediate ly decide that regime will go. when it doesn't, there's something wrong. but this is a very precarious situation in libya. we need to be careful. >> and yet the president is on the record saying regime change must happen. that is now a credibility test. is it not? >> well, even in egypt as we move forward, there were times when some including myself were saying you need to be careful in saying what should happen as opposed to what we believe should happen, and the situation in libya is even more so in that categ...

Country, how does that factor into the credibility test or the president's ability to communicate with the american people? people want to, rally is not the right word. people understand this is of a magnitude that transcends politics and partisanship and -- i -- i really fear that no one really wants to apply politics. i can only tell you, been down there, not bobby, not nungesser, nobody wants to play politics with this. i am fearful it will lapse into a political fight which will be automatic if he tries to ram through comprehensive energy agenda, some environmental religious environmental ...

Lising to agencies to make a credibility test for a small bill. the american people are with us on this. we should have a strong hand. senator dodd is trying to balance -- he has a complicated job. he is trying to get a bill with enough votes to pass. you heard the president say yesterday we are going to fight against efforts to weaken this and take every opportunity to strengthen it. >> more of my interview with treasury secretary tim geithner ahead. we will talk about the bailout of wall street, the loans that bankers still aren't making and the bonuses they are. >> people are incredibly ang...

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