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Passes impeachment. i don't even think they will get to 48 at this point. but hey, as long as we can keep that drama going, it could possibly happen. that's the bottom line. >> another big difference, in bill clinton's day we didn't have the 21st of a new cycle where everything was live on social media all the time. so every move that came across was bigger. now and nothing is a big deal, because it gets swept aside, it seems. as the new cycle rolls on. how did that impact of this? >> that's the thing. when you look at polls taken since nancy pelosi made her announcement around an inquiry on t...

No. i think democrats should proceed with caution. >> shannon: kevin, you think democrats are like the boy that cried wolf. we don't know what is the bomb shell that it's me sented to be. >> i never called for this president to be impeached. i think i'm a reasonable democrat. i think we need to show where the evidence leads. let's get it out in the open. let's also make sure that a president of the united states isn't requesting the assistance of a foreign government to attack a political opponent. >> shannon: whether it's biden or trump? >> yes. >> shannon: okay. we agree on that. thank you. ...

York times debunked just a week ago that had no factual basis to a story. i think democrats should proceed with caution. shannon: will a lot of folks feel like the boy who cried wolf, we don't know which the stories will be true or panama be the bombshell it is presented to be? >> i never called for this president to be impeached. i'm a pretty reasonable democrat. we need to see where the evidence leads. to get everything out in the open. let's make sure a president of the united states isn't requesting the assistance of a foreign government to attack a political opponent. shannon: weather is ...

It's a hard one, anyway, but the timing makes it harder. >> he wants to look tough. he always likes to sort of show that he's out to -- you hit me, i'll hit harder. then he wants to ease people's concerns about any sort of economic recession, people feeling this in their pocketbook as he goes to a reelection. at the same time it's sort of interesting to watch this from the hill perspective. we've seen the president do this -- you mentioned domestic politics. he says one thing and does something else. lawmakers on the hill have done this without reason over and over again. you see romney coming...

Answers, but here are some thoughts on the economy." why not some ideas on health care? what happened to that? >> amen. this view when you came from an admission that said to go high y go low. >> it right. you just hit the nail on the head. that's my point exactly. when you just threw these claims out, it becomes sort of like the boy who cried wolf. we threw too many times. sort of like the russian inclusion narrative. become something, once you've heard it so many times i think it loses its effectiveness. we need to be having conversations about the actual policy and the numbers. the doubters...