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Entitled to be kept secret. bad news, richard nixon, you don't get to use it here because what the supreme court said 8-0 unanimous at the time is that executive privilege is meant to protect the secrecy of national security information, military information. it is not intended as a sort of general shield against criminal liability. >> especially if we are talking about a crime being committed. >> and there is an exception. every privilege has an exception. if mueller or a prosecutor can show evidence of a crime then the privilege is out. >> tangled up in all of this right now is the media whi...

You -- i think we are a long way from anyone being able to prove conspiracy or collusion. conspiracy to defraud the united states, a crime being investigated by the special counsel's investigation. the idea of small collusion, there are points now between russians and members of president trump's inner circle during the campaign time frame are coming closer and closer together. they all fly in the face certainly politically of the tweets and statements that the president has made over and over that there's no collusion, no one that i know had anything to do with russians, that just becomes mor...

Crime being committed at least in the eyes of the white house. the democrats would say ta kavanaugh committed perjury but in the white house's eyes there was no criminal thing to be investigated and it was obviously a political thing, something that coons and flake had created this seven-day short investigation. >> final question. i'm thinking about a guy like jeff flake who has been so publicly tortured, a brow that has been. furrow mode for days. let's say your piece of journalism is one of several that drop over the next 12 to 24 hours. let's say at sum total is something less than a stella...

We're far more contained than that. we can direct than to different issues. we can have them check back with us and report back to us but we can't just say hey guys, take a look at what's in the newspaper take a look at every lead you have and see what you can come with. there was no evidence of a crime being committed at least in the eyes of the white house. the democrats say that kavanaugh committed perjury. but in the white house's eyes, there was no criminal thing to be investigated. and it was obviously a political thing, something that flake and coons created. >> i am thinking a guy like...

Cohen is going to push back. if you don't want to be seen crossing the president, maybe taking the fifth is the best thing to do and letting the documents speak for themselves. >> attorney/client privilege goes out the window if in those documents there's a crime being committed. the crime fraud exception. it doesn't matter if you're talking to a client. if in fact he was a client. there's some debate whether or not there was an attorney/client relationship there. if there was a crime being committed that goes away. >> he tweets, he warns michael cohen, i'm watching you. could that be construe...