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Sensible conversation. the uniform crime reports, the nation's official crime sticks from the police that come out of the fbi, they're released so late in the game. ten months after the collection year, 22 months after the first month of the collection year. that they're worthless for dealing with emerging crime problems such as this one. and so we don't even know how extensive crime increases are in the united states. >> or if they're increasing. > what's that? >> or if it's increasing. part of what i have observed is that from the very first moment there has been a rush in some senses it see...

Ten months after the collection year, 22 months after the first month of the collection year. that they're worthless for dealing with emerging crime problems such as this one. and so we don't even know how extensive crime increases are in the united states. >> or if they're increasing. > what's that? >> or if it's increasing. part of what i have observed is that from the very first moment there has been a rush in some senses it seems to me to sort of find a crime increase empty wake of this as if there was a sort of a predestined expectation there would be one. >> right. that's quite possible....

Ten months after the collection year, 22 months after the first month of the collection year. that they're worthless for dealing with emerging crime problems such as this one. and so we don't even know how extensive crime increases are in the united states. >> or if they're increasing. > what's that? >> or if it's increasing. part of what i have observed is that from the very first moment there has been a rush in some senses it seems to me to sort of find a crime increase empty wake of this as if there was a sort of a predestined expectation there would be one. >> right. that's quite possible....

Policy. >> right >> which meant we took the guns. >> so you know what the president brought up. look at australia, look at britain, they're like us, they don't have the gun problems that we do. >> oh, they certainly have significant crime problems. and they have murder problems. and we've had mass murders in denmark where they have very strict, almost -- very strict gun laws almost nonexistent guns. >> you're an expert on crime. other countries come to get advice from you and your company. if i told you he walks in with four guns in other countries he wouldn't be able to get those four guns, w...

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