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Mueller? >> well, first, the easy part, while the democrats doing it? they are never held accountable by the d.c. media. they brought michael cohen and john dean as either fact witnesses or experts, you would've been excoriated as a chairman if you had brought two witnesses like that, but they have a safety net.an they are never criticized. b you are calling someone who does not want to come, who is not going to deviate from the four f corners of his report -- some of us did not even think that the report should be public. we sure as hell do not think he ought to be testifying. but they get a ...

And trump to lose. the how much bias are you willing to put up with? you fired strzok but hired a bunch of prosecutors that felt the same way. number two, somebody needs to ask about this legal issue, if you can resist an unlawful arrest. can you resist and on predicated investigation? which forces us two to go to the origins of this russia investigation, and how much time did he spend cycling through that? then i would go to what did you find? no collusion, no criminal collusion, despite two years. what did you not find? an indictable offense for obstruction of justice. and this is a category...

I forgot to make? here is why i think collusion is so centrally important. number one, this is the main thing that bob mueller was appointed to find out. and if the collusion narrative by the left -- if it's there, we want to know about it. if there was no collusion between the trump campaign and the russians, that's a big thing because it forces the democrats to look into, if they are intelligent, why they lost. they're telling themselves, too many of them, we lost because of improper collusion between trump and the russians, not because we didn't have the right message. and so it has allowed...

Collusion but there is this, let's go to the next issue. let's go to the campaign finance. but it is actually very, very important. the trump people did not collude with the russians to rig the election. i think it's important. >> jon: some democrats on capitol hill in congress have said if they aren't satisfied, if they don't like the mueller report, they'll keep on going with investigations in congress. what do you think? >> well, that's their right. they have a majority in the house. i'm sure we'll have all kinds of fights as we always do between the congressional branch that issues the sub...

Campaign and russia. why do you say that? >> well, because we would have seen it. again, collusion is kind of a nothing word. when i say collusion i mean as you point out, john, criminal collusion. that is to say a conspiracy that violates a provision of our criminal code. and i think we would have seen it now in all of the various plea agreements and statements of the offense that go along with plea agreements that have been issued by bob mueller and his team. really almost all of these have to do with obstruction of justice or lying to the government. if there was a larger case, i believe we...