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For all of the syrian refugees who are currently in turkey, to get them out of turkey and stick them in syria. those are his two objectives and he's probably going to achieve them. >> and at the same time, tom, imagine this, the president has invited erdogan to come to washington for this much-sought-after meeting he's wanted since may of 2017 when his bodyguards were indicted by the metropolitan police for, in broad daylight, beating the heck out of anti-erdogan protesters. >> you have to ask yourself, what is the process? >> process? >> you would hope that there's some process somewhere when...

That will be a challenge for them in terms of how to respond to that. also in the court of public opinion, the white house clearly in that document yesterday laying out both a constitutional argument but also a political statement and saying in some ways, look, the president is not being treated fairly here, if you're going to impeach him, if you're going to go through this process then he needs to have due process, he needs to have the right to have counsel present and be involved in the interviews that you want. that might bolster his case among people who are wavering in his base or others ...

I guess maybe he's too young to know captain kangaroo. >> procedures and orders and process and all of this. when you look at the substance whether it is the whistleblower's complaint or the transcript of the july 25th call or text messages that we end up getting last thursday or friday, that's a strain for republicans. >> thank you. mark murray, we got another debate. another nbc debate in georgia. >> looking forward to it. >> we are. it is take your children to workday here at our nbc newsroom. a moment that made all of us stop and smile today. stay with us today here on "andrea mitchell rep...

Veteran former federal prosecutor and former u.s. attorney barbara mcquaid. it's always a pleasure having you on. thank you so much for tonight. coming up for us, foreign policy. it has a funny way of sneaking in and redirecting a presidential race. in fact, are we now watching the start of that process? in a moment we'll talk to the senior most self-described defrocked republican strategist in the business when we come back.

Director. we have a new national security adviser. the fourth national security adviser. we had a breakdown in process. and we have incredible distraction. when you have senior people having to deal with things like they've been dealing with this week, which takes all their time, they're not engaged in the focused work of protecting the country and i can tell you over the course now of 18 years since 9/11 it is not an accident that this country has been better protected. it's not an accident that the professionals have the focus, the processes in place that have protected this country. so this...