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I think it's a savvy argument to make on their part. that said, i also would think that a court would be concerned because this is, of course, evidence of presidential wrongdoing. we've seen in the past, we've never had a situation quite like this one. but we've had situations, for example, in the nixon impeachment where there were, for example, documents that were being kept from congress. the courts ruled to have disclosure of those documents. i would be surprised if a court didn't take into account the heightened need for this evidence because of course this witness is somebody who has evid...

>> in fairness matt, my leads up to you was showing how cpac is an important part of the process. >> thank you for your compliments about cpac. >> it's also true. on the evidence because i want to stick to that for your response, here is what sondland provided as the white house e-mail. and you see right there zelensky on the call and then you have mulvaney saying i asked the security council to setup the call. obviously the difference to past administrations would be that donald trump was seeking domestic re-election help, not foreign policy goals. your response. >> well, look, would there be...

Nunes meeting with the former ukrainian prosecutor to get dirt on the bidens and not disclosing that during these hearings? >> well, he should have -- if it's true, he should have recused himself from the proceedings. he cannot be, if you will, a witness and judge in the same undertaking. and so devin nunes, if this is true, should have had no role in that hearing. he should have recused himself. he should have replaced himself on that committee with somebody else and it is characteristic of what we saw from nunes during the mueller probe where he has hidden his behavior in a way that advantag...

One of the landmark hearings in congress this year was the marathon testimony from president trump's longtime attorney michael cohen during which cohen made allegations of serious criminal wrongdoing by the president from before the campaign all the way up to the white house. that was the oversight committee in congress. also the oversight committee that launched an investigation into trump's immigration policy and family separations at the border. it was the oversight committee that has been relentless on the president's alleged efforts to use the presidency to his own financial advantage whe...

One of the landmark hearings in congress this year was the marathon testimony from president trump's longtime attorney michael cohen during which cohen made allegations of serious criminal wrongdoing by the president from before the campaign all the way up to the white house. that was the oversight committee in congress. also the oversight committee that launched an investigation into trump's immigration policy and family separations at the border. it was the oversight committee that has been relentless on the president's alleged efforts to use the presidency to his own financial advantage whe...