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Criminal wrongdoing. in those circumstances, people -- even elected officials in congress have dropped their partisan allegiances and let them slip a little bit for the good of justice, for the good of the country, for the good of criminal accountability. today, vice president mike pence hired private counsel. he hired a private lawyer to represent him personally in the ongoing investigations into the trump russia affair both in congress and by the special council former fbi director robert mueller. as of last night we now know the mueller special counsel investigation has now spread to includ...

When people rose beyond party affiliation to do what was honorable and right for the country even if it wasn't right for their party. it feels that way. it always feels like it's as bad as it's ever been. but history says otherwise. when there have been gigantic presidential scandals in the past, multiple criminal indictments of senior administration officials and the possibility of impeachment, high level administration officials going to jail or staring down the possibility, even when those scandals happened in what people of the time thought were unbelievably partisan environments, there is...

Washington, d.c. and you have this information that the president came to you and asked you to be part of this effort, conspiracy? i'm not exactly sure what you would call it, to kill an investigation against him, that's not something you can smile and then walk away quietly and not say a word. i know michael gur sin is talking to "the washington post" about the extraordinary number of leaks, but these are people getting information out of possible criminal wrongdoing by the president of the united states. >> we're seeing this through a glass darkly. we're not seeing very much of what's happen...

Who wrote two books about special prosecutors and american presidents. ken good morning lee, and ar which i balanced cox, conscience of a nation, president of duquesne university and professor of law. why do we have special prosecutors, special counsel? >> michael, going all the way back to the watergate investigation, the whole idea is when there's evidence of potential criminal wrongdoing at the top of the executive pyramid, you want the most neutral objective person to look at it so there can be no doubt in the minds of the american public. it is about reassuring the american public that th...

Ken gormlee, an author of the death of archibald cox, conscience of a nation, president of duquesne university and professor of law. why do we have special prosecutors, special counsel? >> michael, going all the way back to the watergate investigation, the whole idea is when there's evidence of potential criminal wrongdoing at the top of the executive pyramid, you want the most neutral objective person to look at that, so there can be no doubt in the minds of the american public. this is all about reassuring the american public that the american system of justice works properly. you must get t...