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Emails that lois lerner had on her hard drive are gone. that's what the irs says and now we've learn that the hard drive was actually recycled and destroyed. there's no way for congress to check and make sure that's actually the case. so that's the backdrop here. listen to what happened with paul ryan. >> sitting here listening to this testimony, i just -- i don't believe it. that's your problem. nobody believes you. >> come on now. >> the internal revenue service comes to congress a couple of years ago and misleads us and says no targeting is occurring. then it says it was a few rogue agents ...

Also, illegals coming in by the bus load. >> this is a cruel, dangerous thing that is happening. >> a federal agent standing by to go "on the record." and developing now, isis taking over one of saddam's chemical weapons in iraq. "on the record" starts right now and first up a blistering attack on the irs commissioner. >> to say that this is the most corrupt irs in history ignores a lot of history and seems to me, again is, a classic overreaction to a serious problem which we are dealing with seriously. >> what i didn't hear in that was an apology to this committee. >> i don't think an apology...

Live from washington. lawmakers want the justice department involved. what can they do to make that happen. reporter: the fbi gets involved if the justice department takes the lead and that's what they want. they said the spreading and growing scale of apparent criminal wrongdoing is outpacing the sources of the ig. those lawmakers wrote that they appreciate the criminal investigation head up by the inspector general at the va but it's not enough. that inspector general gave us an update as to what he found so far last night. >> we found indication of some supervisors directing some of the met...

Will help the administration determine the scope of this problem. john boehner said the long waits are quote a national disgrace. fod 11 separate democrats and 10 republicans signed a letter to the justice department urging it to commence an investigation of criminal wrongdoing at the v.a. they wrote, quoting now: the growing scale of apparent criminal wrongdoing is fast outpacing the criminal investigative resources of the inspector general. both houses of congress are working on bills that will provide vets a choice card to seek private care in the event of long waits. it would also allow fo...

Bipartisan group of senators who absolutely want the d.o.j. involved. they say that evidence of secret waiting times, falsification of records, destruction of documents and other potential criminal wrongdoing has appalled and angered the nation and impair riled trust and confidence in the veterans health administration. they want prosecution of v.a. employees who it's alleged lied about these wait times. >> lied in order to get bonuses to show they were doing a good job. >> that's absolutely the allegation, to bump their performance review so it could be one part of how they would get money at...