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Point. it is just whatever they're doing, it's bad. the people who are over there, who are coming here, we'll have three, four, five mutually exclusive reasons why those people are bad, which goes against all of the tradition of ronald reagan, of the entire bush family in the past, which recognized that, you know, we should treat illegal immigration not as a criminality problem but as a problem with prohibition. these are people trying to make their lives better. it is just a mutually exclusive rag bag of the other is bad. what we need to do, you know, to be tough, like steve miller is tough a...

We are at this point accepting almost the smallest number of refugees in this country than we have in the last 40 years at a time when the worldwide refugee population has nearly doubled in the last five years. it's a staggering number of refugees. we have completely absconded with leadership on this issue and we're trying to cut under tom cotton and other beknighted individuals out there, we're trying to cut the number of legal immigrants into this country. if you look at immigration as fundamentally a criminality problem, then this kind of makes sense. but if you think, hmm, if we have more ...

Immigration reform is actually at this point actually a bad idea. i agree with him on that. i think you have to de-comprehensivefy it. you have to say, i think the problem is we have insufficient number of legal pieces, and it's a two-bureaucratic system. make that number bigger, and suddenly treat it as a prohibition problem rather than treating it as a criminality problem, and you can flip it. but i think rubio has played it pretty well so far. the thing is, he's now the front-runner in the betting markets. >> if he can -- look, he got away with the cnbc debate, because somehow he never was ...

fewer americans filed first-time jobless claims last week. the labor department says that it got 395,000 initial claims. that's a drop of 7,000. it is the first time the number dipped below 400,000 since early april. united nations says that the drought ravaging the horn of africa has not peaked. that means a long-term threat of famine. the u.n. says 12 million people, if you can believe that, are at risk. desperately needs more than a billion dollars to feed them. musician and activist bono talked to anderson cooper who is reporting from somalia this week. >> people watch the values...

If you get the nomination, those people will vote for you anyway. and pivot, and i actually think, perversely, you can make an argument, the best chance for comprehensive immigration reform would essentially be a republican punking his own base on the issue. >> i think that he's actually doning it correctly right now. which is similar to what john mccain did back in 2007. remember, his campaign was almost torpedoed by hostility towards his work on a comprehensive immigration campaign. >> yep, kennedy. >> which he then disavowed and started running and voting against the individual parts of it....