MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show December 31, 2021 05:16:00
I don't think that is a serious threat. i think the real threat, and the real danger would be -- a conventional war in europe. that is what we are talking. about this isn't just gonna be weeks of fighting. even if russia occupies parts of ukraine, ukrainians will continue to fight. and that is the nightmare scenario that i think all rational actors and ross cow, brussels, and washington want to avoid. and that's why i hope these negotiations in january will be successful. >> we will have to wait and see how this plays out. -- former u.s. ambassador russia, thank you so much for joining us. thi...