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Gets big and then bigger again and then bigger february and when it's all said and done we get a lot of jobs. i think that's what's going to happen with the soft gain that we got in december 1699. i think will ultimately end up being higher so i would focus on the unemployment rate, the decline to 3.9%. that's pretty low and head lower and pretty consistent with an economy that's -- that's strong and cutting through all the doing. >> is this fair to say -- if there's a problem in the economy right now it is not that there aren't jobs out there. it's that you can't find workers to fill them and...

Circles, and what's going on out in the country. people experience some cross currents here. the economy is really strong. jobs are really strong. inflation is a problem, though, although most economists believe it's transitory based on some outside influences. so the president has to speak to the rest of the country who i think is a little less skeptical and maybe cynical than those of us who spend a lot of time in d.c. >> if you can't get things at the grocery store, if your gas prices are going up, if those basic necessities aren't happening for folks, that's not washington. that's basic li...

Say, okay, this part of build back better we can get done. maybe he'll get some republicans to do it with him. maybe he'll get something on prescription drugs which is really popular, for example nks universal pre-k. why not try things like that? it worked for bill clinton. you can't say this is the end of the biden administration, but i do think it takes a real realignment here. >> you raised something interesting. i want to ask you about what former clinton press secretary joe lockhart has put it, he sees this real disconnect we obviously know exists between washington and the rest of the co...

Raffensperger to find votes, the margin of victory for president-elect joe biden. what is the significance of a special grand jury potentially convened there? >> yeah, i always thought this was the most dangerous case for him, it is discrete, clean, has what prosecutors love, an audio tape and goes through it. the special grand jury itself, nicolle, is not the biggest news, it is what you need to have more than two month long investigation that you can subpoena folks and bring them in and out. i am surprised she didn't do it earlier. it shows her resolve and she's dangerous for trump, she is n...

Do you see any trend lines moving away from the complete lunacy of the trump years in the republican party? >> well, i think you see cross currents. certainly a lot of these folks are looking at polls of the kind you just pointed out and saying, you know, there's room now to say i don't have to be part of the cult because, as you pointed out, there are people saying, "i'm a republican first, i'm a trumper second." but i also think there are current in the other direction. i mean we are talking about this, as mika just pointed out, in the shadow of the censure of the last two independent republ...