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Right? the left things they're not woke enough, and the right thinks they're too woke. they basically made everyone angry. media mogul garrett diller said it's valid to not take positions on social issues. i wonder if your view, doesn't that miss the internal pressure that companies like disney are facing from their employees to speak up? >> yes. i think disney's definitely feeling cross-pressured. you have a large lgbt community that's pressuring them and groups pressuring them. you have a lot of employees at disney for many years that's been considered a very pro-lgbt employer. so those voke...

Positionings. >> i remember in 2007, i travel with then senator obama running for president. we did town hall meeting after town hall meeting in iowa. every single day, these are iowa caucus-goers, a subset of democratic primary voters, somebody would raise their hand and say why are you for amnesty? you realize there is that guest worker program over there where, you know, somebody who is feeling pinched in this economy says there's a bill in congress to give somebody the job i would really like. we have to have a discussion about that so that every member of this country doesn't feel so enor...