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And compare it to where we were pre conviction and what do we see? we see that now, joe biden leads in that poll among registered voters by two points. that's within the margin of error. that's not a major change from the tie that we saw before the conviction took place, but i dug into the cross tabs a little bit, you know, i love digging into those costs have crosstabs. it's the thing that gets us each and every time i know you love doing it too. it's great. think on a friday night. and what i saw on those cross tabs was that will republicans were very much sticking with trump and democrats w...

Outperform that poll and do very well with -- and move past new hampshire. >> the pollster at the table, nikki haley probably saw the poll and thought awesome, i'm in second place. then you dive into the cross tabs, and as david points out, the enthusiasm is not there compared to the other two major candidates. and a lot of the support is not coming from republicans. >> that's right. i think that's going to create a big problem, because it's not just iowa that you have to win over republicans to win the republican primary, but a lot of these other states. you know, new hampshire may well be th...

It has trump at 48%, haley moving up into second place with 20%. desantis 16%. vivek ramaswamy still in the place, 8%. the margin of error, plus or minus 3.7 points. does trump have a point, is there really any threat? >> there's two ways to run a race, scared or unopposed. the lock looks pretty solid here. if you look at the numbers in the cross tabs, it looks solid. but there's still -- it's going to be bad weather. desantis does have kim reynolds, he has her operation. the governor of iowa, he has her ground game operation. i think the big loser here tomorrow is going to be nikki haley. i t...

That vote. so there is the greatest divide. when i look at all the cross tabs, what you think about the 2020 election tells you everything you need to know about the 2024 primary and there are a lot of folks who make the argument. trump might be a stronger general election candidate. the fact is, he might be a weaker primary candidate as these numbers show right here. >> right. he can't come off that argument politically speaking even though it is a lie. the numbers don't lie there. let's shift to something do i want to talk about. they had the hall of fame game the other night. the jets and...

From donald trump's right. a lot of voters supported him because they liked his policies, but the argument that has not been really made effectively by the opponents is the electability argument. that is what really concerns so many republican voters that donald trump could get nominated and use a general election, cost him the house and senate. they're not making that argument effectively. hardly any discussion about all the ammunition in the indictments to go after trump. they're siding with trump's argument he is being unfairly targeted here. you're seeing an uncertainty among the republica...