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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

it has trump at 48%, haley moving up into second place with 20%. desantis 16%. vivek ramaswamy still in the place, 8%. the margin of error, plus or minus 3.7 points. does trump have a point, is there really any threat? >> there's two ways to run a race, scared or unopposed. the lock looks pretty solid here. if you look at the numbers in the cross tabs, it looks solid. but there's still -- it's going to be bad weather. desantis does have kim reynolds, he has her operation. the governor of iowa, he has her ground game operation. i think the big loser here tomorrow is going to be nikki haley. i think her numbers, if you look at the cross tabs, they come from independents and democrats, a little soft. doesn't have as good a ground game and spend the time on putting it together. so i think desantis could

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

place. the reason that works for joe biden is there was an electoral path for him. there was a more diverse electorate in nevada and south carolina. that was from a campaign perspective. that was always the strategy that we knew we were not going to do as well in the first two states. so we needed to get to nevada and south carolina. so the talent is the field. this field, there isn't a path for a ron desantis or i would argue even a nikki haley, obviously bakari knows her well from serving with him. >> i just said she's formidable. >> no question. but a weak showing in iowa, there's not a strategic path for these guys. donald trump has gone wire-to-wire with all of the key coalitions within the republican party that you need to become the republican nominee. so a fourth place finish, a third place finish in iowa for these guys when they don't really have a path in these other states, won't have the same path.

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

is not in the best interest of donald trump. he will definitely come out wounded. i think -- i know we kind of laugh and jest about it, but i think vivek ramaswamy has a chance to creep up near third or touch the third place candidate and be really close. i think that although most of his voters are younger, he's done a decent job with our media in iowa. so we'll see how that plays out. >> as i recall four years ago, then vice president joe biden -- did he come in fifth in iowa? >> fourth. >> somebody remembers. >> i remember being in a caulk r -- caucus rooms, with a group of -- i guess it was kamala harris supporters, a group of bernie sanders supporters. there were these sweet little hopeful biden supporters that i said hope springs eternal. they were right. >> their hope was in the right

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

'16 poll was not accurate, especially one in negative 20 degrees. so these are folks very motivated. our voters are very motivated. we have spent a lot of time in iowa, because we have gone door to door, getting people to commit to caucus to us. we have a huge number of people that have committed to caucus, and we expect these are the people that turn out, so there's a lot of excitement on the ground. we're in this for the long haul. we understand you have to win a majority of the delegates. we understand there's a long process here. but we're going to do well, because we've done it right. and our folks are going to turn out. i think that anyone that tells you that they can model exactly who is going to turn out in a broader electorate, it's an unknowable. but with our folks, they're committed. they're going to be there and we'll have a good night. >> so no matter what happens, no matter your result tomorrow night, you're in the race, you're on to new hampshire and south carolina, on to nevada. >> in fact, we have -- on the

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nomination. who do you want to win tomorrow, and what does that person's path to the nomination look like? >> well, i think it's clear that donald trump is going to win iowa tomorrow, and there's not much hope of anybody overtaking him. i think that's not a big surprise. i don't think it matters that much, because for the past 24 years, the winner of the republican caucus in iowa has not been the nominee. so it's really about the fight for second place, and ron desantis has put all the marbles on iowa, and spent all of his time and money there, and seems to be going in the wrong direction. i think nikki haley has the momentum. what this race is about is to try to nominate the strongest possible nominee for november. i'm convinced that the momentum is with nikki haley, that she has the potential of moving into second place, although be it at a distant second place, which gives her momentum heading into new hampshire, where she's only seven points down, and i think that's a real possibility, if

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

so i also don't know what his path forward looks like beyond turning his attention toward 2028. >> at the beginning of december, ron desantis said he was going to win iowa. >> governor desantis lied. >> not lied, it was an inaccurate prediction. >> i don't want to write off nikki haley just yet -- >> you're a former south carolina state representative and you know her. >> i know her. she's one of the more skillful politicians in the country. she's really good in front of an audience and good with retail politics. so she's somebody that donald trump does not want to be one on one with, particularly if she's able to gain some momentum out of iowa. if she creeps into second place and wins by a point or two, or -- not wins but beats ron desantis by a point or two, performs well in new hampshire. then you have south carolina where you had a decent one on one race with her and donald trump that.

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

outperform that poll and do very well with -- and move past new hampshire. >> the pollster at the table, nikki haley probably saw the poll and thought awesome, i'm in second place. then you dive into the cross tabs, and as david points out, the enthusiasm is not there compared to the other two major candidates. and a lot of the support is not coming from republicans. >> that's right. i think that's going to create a big problem, because it's not just iowa that you have to win over republicans to win the republican primary, but a lot of these other states. you know, new hampshire may well be the aberration on the pathway. >> a lot of independents vote in new hampshire. >> for somebody like nikki haley, she needs this boost of iowa to prove that she's not just a one-state candidate who only wins in places with lots of independents and moderates. it is concerning, the numbers underneath the surface. with that said, it doesn't seem likely that ron desantis is going to win the iowa caucuses.

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

super pac never back down has built is much, much stronger, much more intense than nikki haley's, by all accounts here on the ground in iowa. >> dana, stay warm. thank you so much. joining me now is republican presidential candidate florida governor ron desantis. thank you for joining us. so the final des moines register poll considered the gold standard, shows you in third place, trailing nikki haley, more than 30 points behind donald trump. your campaign has focused so much attention and millions in iowa. you visited 99 counties, you spent most of your time as a candidate there. last month, you said you were going to win in iowa. what happen it is you finish third, is that the end of your campaign? >> well, happy 15th anniversary. thanks for having me on. we're going to do well on monday. our voters are very motivated. i think it's very hard to poll an iowa caucus period, which the

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State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash

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