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He would have said, i'm withholding this $391 million until i see the reforms that i want in ukraine because that would have been perfectly appropriate to leverage that money for reforms in ukraine if it was broadly about corruption and not about joe biden and not about that crowd strike russian disinformation campaign. it is unusual that he would make the argument that ukraine didn't know because what it does is it shows that he wanted to keep a secret here. it is one of the many things that shows that. it's really been unexplored because it has president been treated as a serious argument by...

About the biden family. >> let's talk about what vice president biden did. this isn't smearing. this is seeking the truth about corruption. >> it was also significant reason to believe that the bidens were involved in corruption. >> the foreign corrupt practices act makes it a crime to offer something of value to secure business in a foreign country. well, the facts of mr. biden's actions in ukraine certainly look like they cross that line. >> i didn't know biden was involved with crowdstrike, i didn't know he was involved with the dnc server being hacked, i didn't know that was all part of hi...

Corruption. >> the foreign corrupt practices act makes it a crime to offer something of value to secure business in a foreign country. well, the facts of mr. biden's actions in ukraine certainly look like they crossed that line. >> i didn't know biden was involved with crime -- with crowdstrike, i didn't know he was involved with the dnc server being hacked. i didn't know that was all part of his thing. but that's what the president's asking about because there have been informationing that there was some people in ukraine that knew something about that. and that's what he's asking about. so, ...

Resign and, of course, impeachment which is part of the larger issue. this concept that democrats make the president his record proves that he is unfit for office and that includes his conduct with russia. perhaps the children on the border and, charlottesvilles and most immediately ukraine. it must be said here, he is not backing down to this. he lashed into the impeachment vote to move the articles of impeachment and as he was criticizing the process, who did we see at the white house? rudy jewgiuliani who was at the center of this matter and for many blame for pushing the crowd strike and b...

In ukraine if it was broadly about corruption and not about joe biden and not about that crowd strike russian disinformation campaign. and it is very unusual that he would make the argument that ukraine didn't know because what it does is shows he wanted to keep a secret here. it's one of the many things that shows that. it's really been unexplored because it hasn't been treated as a serious argument by a lot of people. in terms of the president having wanted to not tell ukraine. but i think it goes to the motivation there because obviously you could make that trade legally and you would want ...