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Toat president zelensky. after his party won a commanding majority in the election. the embassy received no readout of the call and i was unaware of what was discussed until the transcript was released september 25th. upon reading the transcript i was deeply disappointed to see that president raised none of what i understood to be our interagency agreed upon foreign policy in ukraine and raised the biden burisma investigation and referred to the theory about crowd strike and its supposed connection to ukraine and the 2016 election. the next day, july 26th, 2019, i attended meetings at the pres...

Our debates about politics. that's exactly what you just played there. it really scares me for 2020, too, by the way. she did something very clever, though, i thought. she said look, i think there were some certain things that was bad judgment, that the ukrainian ambassador published that op-ed piece, for instance. but then she said, i want to remind you, dozens of countries did the same thing. and we didn't withdraw military assistance or pull out of nato because the united kingdom did that, because the bbc was running similar things. i thought that was a very effective argument by fiona. and...

President cares about is this fantasy about the 2016 crowd strike and joe biden's son. there is no conceivable way that is -- >> that would be very -- listen. of all the corruption in ukraine if it were true, and i'm not saying it is, but if it were true that the president believed that the vice president's son got a payoff to influence u.s. policy, and if it were true that ukraine interfered in the 2016 election, that would be incredibly significant. >> there is no basis for that. >> you can't assume fantasies. you can't -- >> that's what i'm saying. what's in the president's head matters. >>...

Hold, the meeting, the aid? let's look at what the president has to say. let's look at what's undisputed about what the president has to say. you know how we know what the president has to say? not because of what you have represented or others but because we have a record of his conversation and with who? the one who really matters. with the other president, zelensky. this is what he says. he says "rudy very much knows what's happening and he's a very capable guy." this was after he says he wants a favor and he goes into crowd strike in 2016. he says "rudy very much knows what's happening and...

"i don't want anything, i wanted to do the right thing." referring to zelensky. during that testimony, bret, there was the comment he offered about ex-president pens when he went to poland on the 1st of september. i want to bring this to your attention now. the vice president's office put out a statement in real time during this hearing. i will share part of that with you. full-screen number 9a, put on screen here in a moment. three different sentences. "the vice president never had a conversation with gordon sondland about investigating the bidens, burisma, or the conditions and release of fi...