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Through. and end to everything else, lawe & order. china aligning with putin and russia and iran.tin a is a dangerous combination for president that seems checked ou and frankly i believe compromis especially in the case of china and russia. and i'll add ukraine to the l list. lastly, you brought up the former president not being at the debate. he talked about the loyalty n ron desantis and dent the former president, and president and he said this to me, seannt and hyo. >>u, i'm loyal to my family, th constitution and the lord our god. i work with other politicians t advance a common agenda, n...

Mike pence to feel som residual sense of loyalty, and mike pence is clearly conflicted figure because in fact he has turned on th president in the sense that he resisted the presidents of pressure to do what he thought he could not do under th constitution, but he is no turned on him in the sense tha he is denounced him in vigor's terms, or a lot of the thing that other people woul denounce him for he has been circumscribe i what he said about former trum and he's trying to walk a line in which he keeps fidelity t what he thinks is the trum pence record and maybe the trump upends voters withou...

Can use defamation laws, libel laws, infliction of emotiona distress laws, civil right laws, to drive up the cost o -- not speech, its lies as you know, lives have neve had any protection in th constitution, in fact they'r anathema to the firs amendment. so, i think what we saw on the dominion case is that new york times versus sullivan an defamation law continues to be a vital tool in combatting thi rising threat of disinformatio that you talk so powerfull about. >> either one of these cases whether it's the guns of the lies, is there something - we don't have federa legislation that protects...

Better what to do with taxpaye money that the government does but because the government i too big, they are too many things, and as too many things not particularly well. and i think the government should be -- into the things which th constitution outlined to get those things right and wil talk about the future. >> juanita tolliver, and ric tyler, thank you both for bein with us. coming up, my california community is outraged after an investigation revealed racis homophobic and violent texts from members of the city's police department. the mayor of antioch californi joins us next to talk ab...

It is not about tomorrow but we have to keep fighting o gun control and on health care and on abortion rights, an all these even if we know we are i for a defeat because it is the only way t win humanity >> rene and, met in the 30 seconds we have left these two gentlemen said tha this is the start of a movemen for real do you agree when >> absolutely. they are awakening something i this country with what has happened in tennessee. >> matt? >> i agree it is a movement that is after trying to re-impose th constitution in the united states of america. which we have not yet perfected, but it is a ...