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this fellow paladino is beating up cuomo mercifumercifully. he's not out there putting out a program. he's going after them. he's on the offensive. in politics, this democrats have a fortress they have to defend. they have a record. you can attack any direction. you call the time and place. instead of going out there and staying on the defensive, they build their own fortress. now the democrats are attacking them. so you have us, you have jim clyburn and other fellows in a big argument with the republicans over the republican package. how does that help us defeat the democrats in november? i don't think it does. we gave up a winning strategy here, at least temporarily for a strategy that is not necessarily a winning strategy. we made it their program versus ours instead of get them out. >> somebody should have called you first. pat buchanan, thank you very much for joining me. greatly appreciated. former president bill

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