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Aggressively go after pardons for 16 insurrectionists? >> no many, affairs we conviction. i think ron desantis is far more dangerous than donald trump. for a very specific reason. donald trump is willing to ignore the, rules ignore the constitution, and frankly to the incitement of january 6th. but donald trump is a transactional figure, he will do whatever it takes to win. rhonda santas, i believe actually in his ethos is a culture warrior who wants to take us back 100 years and believes he can use the constitution to that and, and ultimately has a very dark vision of what america will be. so...

He believes we are engaged in a real war that he has to win. ron desantis is a very dark figure in the political landscape, far more dangerous than donald trump. >> and quick follow-up david, he is a dark figure, but it was hilarious on wednesday night when that twitter space thing fell apart. what do you think was going through his head? >> nine years ago fdr addressed milley american and radio, for elon musk and ron desantis could not address 100,000 on a twitter space. a humiliating night for ron desantis. >> made me laugh. molly, david, stewart thank you all for tonight, i appreciate it. s...

Based experience go away, that i think all americans have a stake in this and we can't leave it to the voters and that's where i do commend speaker ryan and leader pelosi on the issue who have been trying to catch up to other industries. >> yeah. >> vincent belasio and capri, we thank you. >> thank you very much. julie: 29 people are hurt seriously after bus flips over in san francisco, the crash closing down most lanes on a busy freeway last night. the cause of a crash still under investigation, fire officials say that the driver was not impaired. >> a roller coaster ride for bitcoin ahead of...