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Training, and that will be a significantly larger portion, we act like they're two separate things. you never pull your weapon out in a behavioral health training course. and you never use de-escalation training in a use of force scenario. they're trained completely on separate tracks. i think that leads us to believe, okay, well, this is what i do. is that use of force thing. because my job, and that is one thing you will hear over and over again, and there are a number of police philosophers we take into play here. and use over and over again in the united states that are not used around the...

Write him down inside letters, and then you try to find some agreement about the limited things that you can agree on, based on reciprocity, and mutual interest. i believe, on european security, there are some issues where we could agree with the russians, if vladimir putin wants to negotiate. i want to emphasize, i don't think he does, but if he does, i think this way forward. >> and that is a great unknown. what it is the unknown, in which people like you throw yourselves into, because diplomacy is always better than the alternative, michael mcfaul thank you for being with us, former ambassa...

I think this way forward. >> and that is a great unknown. what it is the unknown, in which people like you throw yourselves into, because diplomacy is always better than the alternative, michael mcfaul thank you for being with us, former ambassador to russia under president obama, the january 6th commission met yesterday, after -- him with the insurrection, cup grossman jamie raskin joins us next, please stay with us. sman jamie raskin joins us next, please stay with us. (music)