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Be less known out to those of us watching. but who may be central to what was going on in the white house. and you start to build a narrative and others start to cooperate. and then it gets to the point where someone like mark meadows has to say, all right, am i going to rebut this committee and allow the committee and the other witnesses to paint the picture of me that will go down in history. or do i want to go in there and give my side of the story? and that is why the momentum matters. it's that it starts putting pressure on everyone around the president to get in there. to tell their side...

Point. so naming that threat, naming the energy to the dam -- is going to increase pressure to democrats to add. because saying that our own mansion wanted bipartisan support on that is going to be insufficient. and honestly, it will also be a welcome mat for trump to expand his power and expand his authoritarian mission that we stand on display this far. so i say one because i am hopeful that they keep this energy. i am hopeful that they will use every tool available to them to pass these rights. because it falls exclusively to them. no one can step in here. and so when i see biden use this e...

So the energy that biden put on display today is the energy that democrats need to carry in order to flip the script. because the country's act skiing democrats, what are you going to do about everything that has gone wrong? talking about january six? talking about the voter suppression laws. so considering that republicans of resolve himself of any responsibility to fortify our democracy or protect our democracy, it all falls to democrats at this point. >> you said a lot of when is there, when they do that, when they did the other thing. but the fact is it's not for lack of trying on the part...

It. because they know they'll be held accountable. they know they'll be prosecuted for trying to undermine an election in the future. and so it comes back to democrats having that exclusively on their soldier. so at this point republicans have said they're going to try to minimize january six or continue to spread trump slight because they are fully happy being and lined with trump at this point. but on voting rights, ali, that is exactly right. when you think about the fact that black and brown voters can't access the polls, young people can't access the polls, people with disabilities can ac...

State and georgia to try and get him to find 11,000 more votes for him. he called michigan lawmakers. he called the governor of arizona. he repeatedly tried to use any influence he can detain the election and find the way to justify denying president biden the election that he had one. up to the point where he pressured his own vice president to take an action against the president that was unconstitutional on that day on january six. so with this committee has to do and forces to lay out a narrative that would be compelling to voters who haven't already made up their minds about it. many amer...