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When i was city budget director in the early '90s, i used to find 4 rand 5% savings every year. so the mayor and the speaker at the time were able to fund new programs. i will do that again. i will hire a budget director that will do what i did and my successors did and find better ways to do it without cutting programs, we're making the government more efficient. >> mimal block berg said he is not intending to endorse anybody in the general election. you said, you are fine with that. i wonder, wouldn't it be helpful to have the endorsement of michael bloomberg? he is out there attacking bill ...

Then invest in making communities more resilient. to hopefully minimize or reduce the impact of these kinds of horrible natural disasters. >> i want to open this up to our folks here in new york, daniel. bob, coburn's office was asked about whether he would still call for offsets in increased disaster assistance and he said there's a legitimate role for fema. we ought to live within our budget. the oklahoma city bombing, we offset that. we offset that by using funds that weren't being used. we didn't offset it by cutting programs. which is in this time of budgetary quote-unquote discipline. is...

Spend money and what is worth it and what isn't. >> we have here jared bernstein, budget celebrant emeritus. jared, let's talk about this. before this show started, we started a discussion about it's actually good i think for the country to get involved in a discussion about budget, not just because you have an affinity for numb bersz, but as ezra says, budgets are moral documents in a way. they show or priorities as a country. what have you gleaned? >> well, paul ryan's budget has described as robin hood in reverse. i think that is accurate. the savings that he generates largely come from cut...

Find child care for their kids. and vaccinations and cancer screenings, bad idea, a bad idea. >> sequester was the administration's idea. >> they were president obama's idea. >> so-called sequester was obama's idea in the first place and signed it into law. >> and you get -- you get the general picture there, with the zombies and the cars going off the cliff. too late for that? a little late. have they lost that war or could they win the pr battle here? >> they're not going to win pr battles. not only do they deal with a press corps that's not as eager to listen to their side of the story, but...

Have gotten through college without student loans. there are not many republicans that can talk about that. at the same time, he is in the party that would cut student loans. >> he has a great bio and great story. nobody ever said that medicare doesn't go to republicans and student loans don't go to republicans. he has all of these facts that have no point. and so if your argument to the public is we just ran on gutting medicare, and everything i'm saying tonight when you look at the details in the approach to our budget and the fiscal health is about under cutting programs, and then telling u...