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And instead choosing not to go down the road where there is real opportunity to make those cuts. it goes back to just the overall dysfunction i think when i speak to so many members of the business community, and they look at washington. the reaction has not been that negative in the stock market. certainly not the case. and even in the business community to the sequester, but nonetheless, it's the overarching theme of can't they get anything done? we still don't have an energy policy. we still don't have an immigration policy. we still are making the wrong decisions. >> you're exactly right. ...

>> well, that's actually -- >> and unfortunately for those on both sides, republicans and democrats who say we're going to cut discretionary spending, but we're not going to touch the mandatory stuff. that's what they're doing. they're cutting education. they're playing into the chinese hands. they're cutting r&d. they're playing into the chinese hands. they're cutting transportation. they're playing into all of our competitors' hands over the next century. it seems so shortsighted. >> i agree 100%. it's a matter of priorities. we live in an age where you don't have to choose between guns and ...