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I found myself doing normal business and checking in and out as one would do in normal circumstances. on cyber attacks, biden gave a list of 16 credible targets that were off limits saying the u.s. has significant cyber capability and will respond if attacked. when asked about whether he delivered any ultimatumultimatu said this. >> i talked about the pipe mine ransomware hit in the united states. i said how would you feel if ransomware took to pipelines from your oil fields? he said would it matter. this is not just about ourself interest. this is mutual self-interest. >> it is a little like ...

You know, when he says there was no hostilities? maybe there should have been hostilities when you consider we have just been hacked by russia. they are going to present this list of targets that are, quote, off limits, that's not the same as what used to be u.s. nuclear policy. we used to have the ladder of escalation. it was a bunch of if then statements, if russia does this, then the u.s. will respond in this way. if, this then that. it wasn't that it was here this list of really vulnerable things, please don't hit those because that will really hurt. that's not u.s. strength. jillian: puti...

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Threaten the kim jong un needs a relationship with our president to have any hope whatsoever. to trade nuclear arms for food, and more constructive economic relationship. >> something big, for the nonproliferation treaty. iran and syria had an axis of exchange of illicit technology when it comes to building a nuclear power plant like the one israelis exploded. we haven't talked about the proliferation of the technology. >> iran's ballistic missile capability derived from north korea. a state-sponsored terrorism, they are of proliferation, chemical and biological weapons and offense of cyber ca...

Different actors even if president trump and secretary pompeo stand firm. so that's one piece that i'm really looking at. the other very quickly is cyber. we can't enter in a situation where we reduce one threat to the united states, we should be focused on a nuclear threat, meanwhile the north korean cyber capability is very sophisticated, the very aggressive and we need to make sure that's included as well. >> harris: we need to bring you back on another day to talk about that component. we know how risky it can be in terms of our infrastructure, energy, all of that. >> they are very active....