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So certainly as the leader of a country, you would have to hold him responsible, yes. >> what did you say to him? >> very strong on the fact that we can't have meddling, we can't have any of that. i let him know we can't have this. we're not going to have it. and that's the way it's going to be. >> do you believe that? >> well, the reason that i don't believe that, first of all, you can't believe a single word that comes out of that man's mouth. but also remember at their joint appearance, they talked about renewing this idea of a cyber security unit, a joint u.s./russian cyber security unit w...

Cyber unit. we expect him to raise that during this summit. that was outright rejected the first time he raised it, that the u.s. and russia would work together on this cyber security unit. so we expect him to raise that again. it is possible that that could lead to at least some kind of talking about it. that would be something of a win for putin. and that putin will suggest that he has a role in north korea's eventual denuclearization, offering some technical assistance. president trump might say, okay, you can share with us your expertise in handling nuclear material. again, that would be a...

Trade. now, you wouldn't think of the european union, but they're a foe. >> shortly thereafter, geoff, the eu tweeted out, america and the eu are best friends. whoever says we are foes is spreading fake news. talk about these two things in concert, if you would, geoff. you were there at that nato summit. just before that summit got under way, you had an agreement signed between nato and the european union, some strong words from donald, as well. what does this say to you about the integrity of that transatlantic alliance? >> well, david, it's interesting. the president's comments, i think, are...

Cyber security unit. the president only really backing away in the face of international ridicule. just a couple of weeks ago at the g7, he wanted to invite russia back into that gathering and make it again a g8. so what will the president say when he sits across from this table with no aides and no interpreters in the room? i offer that up as a rhetorical question. based on the things that he said in public, it doesn't appear he'll hold his feet to the fire. >> all right, geoff bennett, we'll be watching and see. the president is supposed to be asleep right now, right? i have a feeling he mig...

Force with russia. he was eeffectively saying -- it's like saying why don't you fire proof my barn to a fire arsonist. trump proposes cyber security unit. putin certainly has a strategy andium sure he'll be winging it it. every day on twitter we see evidence that he doesn't understand fundamental basics about nato or anything in global affairs and that's why a one on is so dangerous. >> and we may never know what is said bedween these leaders. >> he said before the trip it's going to be the easiest one. >> president trump supreme court