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Continuing to pay money, originally 10 million. only ended up getting 100,000 for secrets on president trump? there was at no point in this reporting anything delivered in terms of these cyber tools stolen by the nsa. what they were given were simply things called conpromat grainy no sound 15 second video of a man two prostitutes hotel room in moscow no way corroborates the claims made by the russians that it's dirt on trump. rachel: the "new york times" says that the cia didn't really want the trump dirt. they only wanted the cyber stuff. in the end they got just this dirty trump stuff. which...

Favor of removing russian sanctions, i'm sure spies hunting that information. the big fish are fish that either give the russians an advantage in understanding american weapons systems or give the russians a chance to steal sufficient that helps them build their own weapons system, things like special sonar, new materials for aircraft and ships, that's the kind of stuff they want to steal, in addition to cyber stuff. >> john, so curious about the timing here. russia knows their actions are under scrutiny here in the u.s. jill, does it make sense to you that they would have an operation like th...

Ensue if indeed we got in front of this thing. >> ed: there are a lot of options besides weapons, the cyber stuff and we could create chaos. >> kat: building up our missile defense system. here's the thing. when you talk about going and doing a strike against them. you were upset about otto warmbier. you wanted to get in there. there would be so many dead people. >> eric: we don't know that. i will go back to the israelis and iraqis in 1981 with a surgically took out some of the nuclear proliferation capabilities without many casualties at all and the iraqis didn't attack israel. they didn't k...

>> it is a privilege to be here with young brilliant people, and you too eric. >> eric: i was going to give you a compliment. ed rollins was at the head of the campaign that won 49 states, the reagan campaign. you took out on walter mondale who won one state. >> eboni: you did. >> ronald reagan said, what happened to minnesota? i said, we have to put nuclear waste somewhere. there's a lot of lakes in minnesota. obviously we didn't do that. >> eboni: we can see those family members and it goes beyond a red-blue issue like so many hyper- partisan things. >> when you read the bill it's a very sim...

Thinking skills to provide alternate solutions. >> eboni: why does it have to be an ultimate solution? >> kmele: it is supposed to be about reducing violent crime. >> eboni: maybe that's what we are having. i am not seeing this as a solution for reducing violent crime. i am seeing it as a follow-through stuff that says when you commit a violent felony, you don't get to come back. >> ed: you have to get away from the several. if you're going to put people out of the country because they are here illegally, you have to move it from civil to criminal. you are never going to stop the illegals comi...