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Insurrection. is it self-executing, based on a criminal charge, based on a conviction. nobody knows the answer and they aren't going to weigh in? >> what they could do is congress has to tell us how this works, congress has to tell us what the process is, and thus far -- >> congress has to define an insurrection? >> no. tell us who gets to decide whether there is an insurrection and by what means. thus far in the 150 years since the amendment was passed all congress has done is pass the criminal law against insurrectionists. that may be it. it may be unsatisfying to people. it's possible the s...

I understand that miss krause did an excellent job getting to the key issues of the case. and ultimately pointing out that mr. meadows talked about the use of campaign resources to speed along the count of cup county, admitting that he was on the phone on january 2nd with campaign lawyers also on. and again, stepping back and hearing some of this now under oath, i served as a chief of staff. i understand what that role means. but even at the federal level, there are clear rules that you cannot use that federal position to advance campaign positions or campaign actions. so i think again in thei...

There is an email that was introduced to evidence today as an exhibit. it's an email that never made that indictment that multi page indictment. it was used for cross-examination of mark meadows to impeach him. mark meadows said, i had nothing to do with the fake elector schemes. if anything came to me about alternate electors and pass it along to the campaign. then, the d.a.'s office whipped up this email from mark meadows to jason miller -- december 2020. mark meadows himself forwarded a kenneth chesebro november 2020 member to jason miller and said let's talk about this. jason miller said y...

How this ever would get done in the timetable? not to mention the jury's selection and then you have got to realize these cases will not happen in a matter of few days. these cases were gone for weeks if not months. and so i think we are gonna see a lot of different adjustments on these counters, the judge in d.c. has been very here that clear this is not going to happen 26 to 2026, it's gonna happen in march of 2024. and so i think that we are going to see that happen, i think we are gonna see that date hold fairly close to that. and d.a. willis. >> you know, d.a. willis a think is very inter...

Not factually true, then they can use that to attack him trial. that's why it's so fraught with peril to testify preliminarily in a case like this and why all the defense lawyers and even prosecutors around the country are cringing at the idea. ar>> when he's fleming, if he doesn't get the move to federal court, it just seems that there are lost because that's what getting on the stand was all about. >> i think that's true. again, in might have to disagree with barbara, i think the prosecutors who were in the country were salivating at the news just at the opportunity to be able to cross exami...