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It. you won't get away with scapegoating civil rights leaders this time. people have seen the president's silence as something of a then d thundering statement. >> ashley, is it the belief that the president has made the statement that so many people wanted from him and now they can move on? what's the sense at the white house about where this goes next? >> i think they are going to try to move on. and i think the reason they did this today is they realize they had a huge public relations problem on their hands, to put it mildly. and imagine a different world, where the president had done what...

Way. and he acted on his violent thoughts. and i think it's a prima facie case that can be made to give justice to this young lady's family. >> there was a statement already made, as you know, benjamin, by the attorney general. he said this was an act of domestic terrorism. but the "new york times" explains that this way. they say the domestic terrorism language is largely symbolic. because many of the stiffest penalties are for international terrorism that do not apply domestically. but can they legally, and should they if they can look at this in a very different way than you might just cons...

>> vice president mike pence speaking to nbc's peter alexander a short time ago about north korea. general joseph dunford saying the u.s. is prepared to use its full range of military capabilities to defend its allies. i want to bring in ned price, former special assistant to president obama and msnbc national security analyst, john mclaughlin, former acting director of the cia. and south korea's president issued a statement today, john, saying that the situation around the korean peninsula and neighboring countries has become very serious, and they urge north korea to stop aggravating the sit...

Of okay from the president of the united states. now, he said something very different in our last hour. but what does it say when the president waits 48 hours to make that kind of statement when you already had his attorney general who said there was going to be an investigation into this? does it in any way, do you believe, from your investigation -- from your knowledge of terrorist groups, and i consider -- obviously domestic terror groups are some of what we are seeing here right now. does it encourage them? does it help them recruit? does it give them sort of cover? >> well, yes, it does ...

His staff obviously, mainly his staff, i'm sure, felt that he had to say something. so he did. if i could just add one other thing, chris. >> sure. >> the white supremacists that we saw here, the neo-nazis, the alt-right, whatever you want to call them, they were empowered and emboldened by donald trump, and they told you so. they were very proud of that fact. they were proud that he didn't denounce them. they got the nod and the wink from him. they know he was forced to do this. so i don't think it's going to affect the way they look at him. and for the rest of us, we're left with his record ...