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's >> harris: we don't know what happened in that meeting. >> pete: luis gutierrez from illinois has said that exact same thing. for people who believe in law and order, you solve the problem by building the wall if you don't revisit this. >> sandra: that is republicans argument. you can't just allow daca amnesty, you have to prevent the problem and the whole point of border security is to make sure we are not here again in five or ten years which is the exact problem. again with the government shutdown over this issue. >> harris: my big question is with democrats, we will do something like wh...

>> right. >> and set the whole thing back that here is john kelly admitting, in trump world you never admit when you are doing -- using, quote, truthful hyperbole. >> if i were a democrat, i would try to buy trump off on the wall. because you could give him $5 billion or whatever for the wall and that -- that money is not actually going to be spent on building anything for a very long time. you could take congress and take the white house before anything happens. >> i'm with you. >> and the daca amnesty will not go away. >> i'm with you. and i think call the president's bluff. you want more mo...

Chris cobach is secretary of state for kansas and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. >> tucker: i'm concerned because what we thought was never going to happen again appears to be happening and that's the leadership of the republican party ignoring what its voters want party in favor of a deal that again fails to t seal the border and give us actual security in the right to choose who comes here. am i imagining that? >> no, you are not imagining that. the worst, the most troubling thing about that meeting on tuesday that i saw was you had multiple ...

Same? chris cobach is secretary of state for kansas and he joins us tonight. mr. kobach, thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. >> tucker: i'm concerned because what we thought was never going to happen again appears to be happening and that's the leadership of the republican party ignoring what its voters want party fails to secure the border and security and who comes here. am i imagining that? >> no, you are not imagining that. the worse, the most troubling thing about that meeting on tuesday that i saw was you had multiple republicans repeating the mantra we have got t...

Authorizations for the wall and much more. some republicans say his bill is not tough enough. they are calling it daca amnesty. as you may have heard, 46 house members are retiring or not running for office this year -- 32 of them are republicans, seven of them are powerful committee chairman just like congressman goodlad. they are certainly feeling the heat on immigration reform, what else is driving so many of them to walk away from the the hill? who better to ask then chairman goodlatte himself, thanks to have you with us again. let's start with the bill today, i want to start with e-verify...