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Important things happened. number one, he committed to bringing a bill to the floor on a date certain, number two, he talked about a neutral level playing field, a neutral bill in order to give us an even chance to get at this issue and finally, if you recall earlier last week and for the prior couple weeks, mitch mcconnell said i won't deal with this issue because the president hasn't told us what he's for and we'd only be spinning our wheels. as of yesterday morning, mitch mcconnell said we're not waiting for the president anymore, we're bringing a bill to the floor on february 8. if we can'...

Are not in the business of negotiating with terrorists whether they are political or otherwise. do you think that's a fair comparison of your colleagues to call them political terrorists? >> i do. when you shut down the government over an unrelated issue -- and for the record i opposed the republican shutdown in 2013 so i think that is exactly what was done. the democrats are smarter, they saw they were a dead end and they retreated quickly and i think they were wise to do so. the longer this went on, the worse it was going to be because it makes life worse for the american people. it's never ...

Have been some instances recently where it was reported that promises were made to specific senators and they were not kept. i have growing confidence in the group of republican senators that were meeting a with a group of democrats for several days, we spent hours, i think a total of eight hours together fairly intensively over three days. i believe they are committed, several of them intensely committed to moving this issue forward in a positive way, and to working together to get 60 votes, leader mcconnell has given us time on the floor and made a commitment in such a public way. i find it ...

Somebody is stepping into a voting booth and going to say "remember that shutdown for three days in january?" i don't think so and i also think it's baked into the way people feel about the way the government operates which is that they can't keep the lights on and they move in three-week increments to keep the government funded and open. it has specific implications, as you said, for children's health for the next six years and perhaps we heard optimism from senator chris coons of delaware perhaps for daca that mitch mcconnell has made this commitment and promise to raise the issue and get a ...

Border any more. it's been cut down so dramatically that there's a negative flow going the other way, right? >> it's -- both republicans and democrats have gotten themselves into a position where they are in a whole load of political hot water around something that will never happen, that isn't needed and that we all know is never going to happen and mexico is never going to fund it. it's add to we've got into this position where a government shutdown over something like that. democrats and the democratic base are up in arms over something that will never happen and the white house and the rep...