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>> it wouldn't say it in the bill. would you be willing to vote for some border security money, wall money, barrier money to give permanent protection to daca children, daca young people like cecilia? would you be willing to make that exchange? >> let me be very clear. i'm not going to vote for a wall under any circumstances, and i do support border security, and if we want to talk about that, let's do that. let's talk about what really accomplishes border security, which is let's upgrade the technology. let's look at the fact at the folks who are working on border security on the ground know ...

Security of 320 million american citizens. that's highest priority. second, we have this issue of daca that's 690,000 people that need to have their problem resolved. remember, their parents broke the law. these children didn't. that is why we need to have a solution for these daca recipients. >> jon: fair to say, if we had any border during the last 20 or 30 years when the so called daca children, they were children at the time when they came here, we wouldn't have the daca issue front and center now. >> that is why the president is exactly right. to start the discussion with securing the bor...

2018 is a fairly spirited debate about how to deal with the issue of immigration and making our borders more secure. there's a lot of sympathy in the country for these young people, daca children who are grown up. i think that debate will get underway, we have until march to deal with that issue and if that's coupled with some stronger border security measures there may be a way in which we can advance some major significant immigration legislation that would accomplish many of the things we've been trying to do for a long time and that is make america's borders more secure and insure the peop...

Supporters. >> potentially. but only he i think can propose such an idea to move forward. i don't think this can take place until americans feel safe and secure at the borders, taking care of the dangerous people here in the united states are departed. and that terrorist can't enter the united states through other pathways. >> martha: mike mccaul, thank you. joining us now, democratic response, new york congressman joe crowley, the house democratic caucus chairman. good to have you with us. welcome, sir. >> thank you. >> martha: your thoughts and what we are talking about here, and the potenti...