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Around for a population larger than just those with daca? >> we are open to having a debate on a level playing field on this issue and negotiating that with congress and making sure we get the deal that meets the criteria we have clearly laid out. blake? >> one clarification. the president is still planning to go to davos? >> if all things go as expected this afternoon with the re-opening of the government which we expect they will the president's delegation leaves tomorrow and the president will continue on his trip later in the week. >> the priorities of a daca fix, where exactly does that r...

Due respect is not exactly simpatico with the white house. here is a guy who is being forced out to being forced to essentially retire because the republican base has rejected him, and he went to war with president trump earlier. i don't think he is actually on the short list. but the white house i think has been actually fairly consistent. they want to make a deal on daca. but the devil is in the details. they just don't want to give away the ship. they want to end chain migration and they want fund fog interest border wall. and they're not willing to give up that. they think we should keep t...

Republican consultant john thomas. good to have you both back with us this hour. david jacobson, i want to go to you first, because the democrats are particularly vulnerable here, aren't they? they're open to blame for holding the government to ransom over the daca issue. many saying why not just pass the spending bill and deal with daca a few weeks down the track? >> you know, i actually think is democrats have the high ground here. they're the ones able to pull bipartisan support last week and get four republican senators to support the reference. lindsey graham, jeff flake, mike lee and ran...

Is this a moment where democrats and republicans can say we've known each other for decades, let's find a path. >> this is a moment where they should do that, american people want this done. let's talk about the president after we get a bill done. let's not talk about things that are in closed doors in quiet rooms where nobody has the press there. that's always what frustrates me because people say things that maybe not are 100% true, but i know one thing that is true, the american people want a daca fix. they want an immigration plan fix. they want immigration reform done. that should happen ...

This agreement on the table and the democrats essentially caved. so the white house is essentially casting this as a victory for them and saying that democrats realized, quote, unquote, that their position was indefensible. that is the most important thing that i heard because it says that the president has not really moved his position at all. she also said that the president would not commit to signing a daca fix. they want to get to a solution but equally as porn is getting a solution for the wall and ending chain migration. >> it seems to me based on listening to this argument up here, tha...