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Maybe they are hoping that congress steps in here and takes action rather than the court deciding. the supreme court especially chief justice john roberts, they believe strongly that they should stay out of maybe political debates and wait until issues become ripe for their judicial decisions. >> the ninth circuit ruling conclusion that this was arbitrary by the trump administration stands and that will not change in the courts this year. whether it changes in congress is a great point. >> it's a mixed bag. a defeat here on daca which is central to the government shutdown. it's beyond a month....

Majority is certainly with him on the wall but the majority of the country was in. it is imperative for him to bring him around. he had defined 10% more people. then you knew eventually he would get to the daca issue. it's even tougher for him because not only do you have more country at posing what he initially did the ending survey. they went aside to 70% or 90%. now you've got people saying you're using a bargaining chip you created which wasn't a problem to begin with and the numbers are higher. you bring in the criticism from the far right. the president is susceptible to that criticism. ...

This matter, way back to the daca issue where he was going to do something beautiful for the daca students. didn't happen. here again just a week and a half ago we saw the president saying -- or at least his staff, saying the president would do something. the next morning we found out the president would not do that. >> you heard phil mattingly, our congressional correspondent, report that three times the democratic -- the democratic minority leader in the senate, chuck schumer, asked the president why he wouldn't accept this compromise offer to keep the government open for another month while...

Last time, if they really wanted to go with that temporary measure and continue negotiations for a month while the government reopens. phil mattingly, a good report. thank you very much. joining us now democratic congressman john garamendi of california. he serves on the armed services committee. congressman, thanks as usual for joining us. the president said today he's going to continue the shutdown, in his words, as long as it takes. if the president refuses to budge on that $5.6 billion request he wants for border security, including funding for a wall, what are the democratics going to d...

February 8th with a continuing receipts lugs f resolution for that. >> if mitch mcconnell refuses to allow that to come up for a vote because he fears the president could veto it, woo do yhat do y then? >> the ball is on his side of the tennis court. it is up to him. he gets to deal with it. we are ready to fund the government. we're ready to do that. the issue is not the national parks. the issue is not the department of transportation. the issue is the department of homeland security and the question about a wall. now, let's keep one thing very clear here. the president has yet to propose an...