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Usa congressional reporter eliza collins. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> rick: the democrats have been quick to criticize president trump. where were they when former president obama did the same thing eight years ago? >> they were more supportive than they are now, of course. i think as we just saw joe crowley point out, this is a whole other -- th immigration is such a larger issue this time around because president trump ran on a tough on immigration stance. we now have the whole daca situation. congress has basically been frozen on the issue. so it is a different sort of situation...

Immigration. this president is going to be tough. we have to be careful if we're going to cross illegally to the united states. but if you look historically, i get the president's point. he has every right to say that's still unacceptable. he can make that point. the question is, is it at a point where you activate the national guard, which is normally for emergency circumstances? >> clearly this is a political move, but it's a political move that caomes around the daca situation, and it got such a backlash among that core consistency among his base that he seems to be compensated for it. at t...

60 votes. what happens next? >> >> will continue trying. those bills were principally about the daca situation. and senator schumer offered 25 billion for border security, including a significant number of miles of fences and walls. that was a straight up daca. within the trump administration together with some of the republicans began adding riders to the proposal which was not acceptable. not only to democrats but also republicans. i think there are only 39 republicans that ultimately voted for it. so if we had a clean daca, and money for a wall or for border security, it would undoubtedly p...

Apply for asylum. some may be denied. some may be taken to detention if they're unaccompanied minors. but this is the law. if trump doesn't like that, he would have to work with congress to reform our policy toward asylum seekers an refugees. this is not the same and should not be conflated with the daca situation. totally different. >> which, by the way, isn't even accepting people and something the president put an end to and kicked it to congress. >> he created this crisis. >> raul, thank you so much. raul reyes. coming up next, the white house and the former va chief at odds over whether...

Impinging on anybody's first amendment rights. the law already protects people's first amendment rights. this is a case where there are a small group of well-funded right wing extremists that want to eliminate unions. >> eight of the nine justices have voted on similar cases. they were split evenly. there is an enormous focus on the newest member on the bench, justice neil gorsuch. normally chatty and engaged. today he did not say a word. we are going to have to wait. >> bret: mike mentioned the daca situation. they want this to be ironed out. >> no ruling on the merits toda today. they are sa...