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Shut down and over the holiday season. that is toxic for both sides. so this is to create maximum pressure. create a crisis point for lawmakers in washington, that they have to come together because they can t have a government shut down during christmas. shepard: one side wants a wall, the other side wants protection for the undocumented immigrants that came into the country as children with their parents and are really kind of stuck. does one of them have to back down or one of them have to give up what they want to get anywhere or are there some other options? this could be one of those and not or situations. there may be room for some compromise here where every one gets a little bit shepard: so a small wall and a few dacas? potentially like that or a full daca with a wall and some other immigration fixes associated with that that are popular. you know, it s very difficult ....
What see, the important thing is do they, if they amnesty these dacas, in other words, the population, are they also going to take steps to limit the fallout from that amnesty, yes or no? if i was going to predict, and my predictions plus $4 will get you a cup of coffee in starbucks elizabeth: not with standing taxes. [laughter] i m not sure they re going to be able to get anything through congress by march when these people will then start one day at a time start losing their work permits. elizabeth: all right, mark. i think we re going to have to you back because we ll see if they do do anything. mark, thank you so much for joining us, sir, we appreciate it. it s very interesting. thank you. elizabeth: leland? leland: boy, what a day it has been n. the past hour or so, the vice president of the united states walked out of the indianapolis colts/san francisco 49ers game because some members of the 49ers team went ahead and took a knee during the ....
Is, you know, that this is what we need and that it is not acceptable to torture and to take, you know, our rights away fromm from 800,000 people. what if part of this deal to get as a republican sweetener, to say yes to people, you know, good young people like you, is if you agree to build the wall. if you agree to build the wall, then we ll say okay to these 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers. what do you say to that? so i think us, as advocates, you know, our bottom line is that what we re fighting for is legalization for as many people as possible. i think it s, you know, it s we re not working in times where we think that there isn t going to be anything negative attached to it. we ll never advocate for something negative being attached to it, and you know, we re going to stay firm in what we believe, which is legalization, and hopefully we won t get to that bridge, but ....
let alone the other undocumented living in the united states living very peacefully. peacefully, employed in our economy and paying taxes. keep in mind none of the dacas can receive benefits. they can t receive welfare. that s part of the deal. so we have a situation here that s totally unnecessary, extremely harmful to the economy, obviously harmful to the families, many of them married who now have children of their own, who are citizens. while i have you on a totally different subject, you re a member of the armed services committee. i know you ll be briefed tomorrow on this escalating tension with north korea right now, the nuclear tension, the possibility they could be launching another intercontinental ballistic missile. what do you want to hear from the president of the united states to try to calm things down? i want to hear nothing. i don t want to hear a tweet. i want to hear a deep breath being taken. we ve got a very big stick. teddy roosevelt says carry the ....
Would be doing. they re not picking tomatoes. for the most part, the dacas, who have work permits, are working in jobs that americans would be doing. i mean, that s a legitimate point, but it s not the legal point. the legal point is actually something i agreed with senator graham about. daca was illegal. and i also agreed with senator graham that passing a stand-alone measure, a so-called clean daca fix, in other words, where they just give them amnesty, and you don t have any elements that try to limit the harmful fallout of that amnesty, is going to just encourage more illegal immigration, which is why what congress needs to do is not pass the d.r.e.a.m. act on its own but pass a measure that both amnesties the dacas, just give them green cards, rip off the band-aid and get it over with, but make sure that the fallout from that amnesty is limited by mandating e-verify, that s the system to help turn ....