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Mean a murderous dictator's side against the cia. this is how bad it's gotten. you know what, the vast majority of people who work in the cia are veterans. and our intelligence community is incredibly strong and smart. and i know that they are doing the work that america wants them to do and i know they're sharing that work behind closed doors where there is still some bipartisanship on the intelligence community of the united states senate. so i'm optimistic that committee will come out with some solid recommendations on how we can limit foreign power. by the way, can somebody explain to me h...

Was clearly an interest. >> yeah. and let me just be clear here about my perspective on this to your point, matt, about the characterizations of the meeting inside the room. i don't believe they were definitive or take them with a grain of salt. that's what those folks say happened in that meeting. and maybe they are telling the truth. but also remanins the case, michael, that the really important question here is what happened after the meeting. because after the meeting, after they are told the russian government is trying to help their dad win, they find out that there is these leaks, and i...

The president is acting like he has something to hide and is contemptuous of even the suggestion that russia was meddling. you talk to business leaders, they understand there are relationships with russian business folks and american business folks. but even they understand it's different than saying you're going to get involved in an election. >> they didn't care. that's the timeline now. in june you get the e-mail that says the russian government wants to help your dad win. in october you get the senior intelligence official saying the russian government is helping trump win. right? and then...

Flynn, who wouldn't say put the brakes on this. that's the point, that the president is acting like he has something to hide and is c contemptuous of the suggest -- you talk to business leaders. they understand that there are leaders with russian and american business folks. but even they understand it's different than saying you're going to get involved 234 an election. >> they didn't care. that's the timeline now. you get the e-mail that says the russian government wants to help your dad win in june. and then in december, during the transition, you have, as you said, open for business, russi...