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The process began before president obama was where the program was then we formed. the one that is currently operating is one where they do go to the court. the president, when he first came in, was briefed on it. he asked about how the program had changed. he asked about what kinds of checks and balances had been put into the program as it was then operating. he seemed quite satisfied. and that is kind of classic obama. i think he was looking for a -- to make sure these kinds of checks and balances were in place and that this kind of balance between security and liberty was there. problem is,...

Money on the storage. perhaps they don't want to make themselves it liable to lawsuits or perhaps it's a consumer issue, that it's bad branding for them to do. they'd rather have the government force their hand and have them do it, daniel. >> yeah, i think that's exactly what happened. i think originally -- and remember, this is a program, the verizon program, that essentially began under the bush administration. it was that warrantless wiretapping program that was so controversial that "the new york times" revealed back in 2005. originally, the government wanted the phone companies to store t...

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