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for hallie jackson. we'll start with the affidavit news. joining me justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and former fbi general counsel senior member of the mueller team and an msnbc legal analyst andrew wisen. thanks for being with us. ken, let's start with what judge is doing. the judge has that redacted version from the doj of the affidavit. what are some scenarios of what could play out next? >> good afternoon, lindsey. well one scenario is that the justice department convinces the judge that so much of this affidavit needs to be redacted, that there's no point in ...

Threatened their rights under -- the state statute discriminated on the basis of sex and wasn't substantially related to the important interest that it needed to be. >> does this give us any indication on how strong a case the plaintiffs have come october? >> yes, and no. in a sense, it's a judge saying an appeals court judge and a district court judge, saying we will only issue this if we think it's substantially likely you're going to win in the end. it doesn't mean you will definitely win and it's not an adjudication of victory by any stretch, but it is a pretty good forecast that a court w...

On whether to permanently block the law. joining me right now is msnbc legal analyst danny sa val has. what does this mean for transgender kids in arkansas? >> the district court issued an injunction. this was an appeal to the circuit court to decide if the district court made a mistake. in this case the district court had to determine whether an injunction was warranted. we see a lot of injunctions today pap district court can hit the pause button on astatute like this. the plaintiff has to show they're substantially likely to win in the case us l ultimately and they may suffer irreparable ha...