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Was late saturday night about series of disinformation campaigns, not naming russia but thicks like saying the chemical attack was done by the uk. talk about how dangerous and how much that's happening? >> yeah. i thought -- saw that as maybe one of the most positive signs of this that the secretary of defense is pointing this out immediately. over the weekend one of the dash boards we use the hamilton 68, 7 of the top 10 stories being pushed in terms of disinformation saying the united kingdom staged this chemical attack, a provocation to justify these actions. the u.s. is starting to take th...

Their car so they know how fast they're going, and they can prevent themselves from ever getting in trouble in the first place. >> so is this putting metrics around things? what do you mean exactly? >> it's a mix. when we talk about controls, we talk about sort of three levels of it. and this is what the book scale is all about it teaches you how to build these three things but the first level is just visual controls dash boards like a speedometer something every employee can look at and say how am i doing? am i doing what the business needs me to do? not everybody has dash boards and they sho...

Around things? what do you mean exactly? >> it's a mix. when we talk about controls, we talk about sort of three levels of it. and this is what the book scale is all about it teaches you how to build these three things but the first level is just visual controls dash boards like a speedometer something every employee can look at and say how am i doing? am i doing what the business needs me to do? not everybody has dash boards and they should. so that's visual controls. then we talk about procedural controls which is explaining to people how to run the business for example here's an easy one pe...

They had your number? >> yes, sure. the colonel came out of baghdad. he was with 3500 guys and he said that the blackwater call signs were at the top of their dash boards. >> what do you say to people who say we don't need private security firms. that's why we pay tax dollars. >> politicians can have that debate, but contractors have been part of american national security history since the start. as people sit down for thanksgiving dinner next week, think about that. miles standish and others were part of military contractors. the tradition continues and it's inherently american. >> if they h...

Commute as they were making their way to clerk. as first they were but once they realized what happened, once they realized that -- i think that all was, for the most part, okay. i think it was -- it was more kind of astonishment. >> what is so interesting is we have so many videos available to us so everybody had a video camera taking care of it. why all the individual row and dash camps? i hear all sorts of stories why that may be. >> this is kind of an interesting somewhat nonconnected trends. the reason russians have so many dashboard camps in their cars is expected to a high degree of pol...