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And metadata, the committee has used link analysis, a data mapping technique that former fbi agents say was used to identify terrorist leaders in the 9/11 act. what does that tell you, frank, about the sophistication of this investigation? >> i'm encouraged to hear this, it's what we used to call the enterprise theory of investigation and today there's all kinds of software that engages in victim analysis and network analysis that can tell you, look, while this guy was talking to this person at this time, this similar conversation was going on here and then they hooked up an hour later. we can...

Investigative committee has no authority whatsoever to pursue criminal charges. however, it appears set on a strategy of, unofficially building cases for the attorney general. merrick garland. and trying to convince him to pursue criminal charges. of course, if these become a criminal case, those refusing to a cooperate will be forced to under threat of arrest and prosecution, participate. private times quote, armed with reams of telephone papers and metadata, they used a data mapping technique, the former fbi agent says was key to identifying terrorist networks in the years after the septembe...

That has been publicly reported. so i don't know that he'll utilize -- respond to pressure, but i think he is responding to what appears to be strong predication for a criminal investigation here. and so the same techniques that are being used kind of in the open with the january 6th committee i suspect is going on more covertly within the justice department. >> frank, i just can't get over the fact that they're using tactics that they ordinarily reserve for terrorists and mobsters, applying it to a case that involves a former president of the united states. another part of this reporting from...