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Whistle blower. who says the firm used illicitly acquired facebook data from tens of millions americans to run the core business of the operation. in the case of john bolton's super pac? cambridge analytica reportedly used that american facebook data to make ads for candidates who bolton supported. but also appear to have used bolton's pac as a way to try to get more americans data off of facebook. the times reviews the agenda of a 2014 meeting. where the company explained the company wanted to use the voter contact list to direct people toward the facebook app. that would be the facebook app ...

And this was this data that became the foundation of the company because this is what we used to build the algorithms that then were -- you know, that actually became the basis of the company itself. so the question that i would have is, well, what happens to the foundation of your company, you know, if you didn't indeed use it on the trump campaign? what were you using, then? >> because that was the basis of your company, right? that's how your company started? that was the foundation of your company. >> there was no data before that point. so we went from no data to, you know, harvesting all...

That's how the company started. >> yeah. there was no data before that point. so we went from no data to harvesting all of this data off of facebook and then combining it with all this consumer data sets -- >> at the behest of steve ba bannon? >> yeah. the company got funded in the spring of 2014 and he wanted to be able to have functioning program in time for the mid terms. so we had sort of a steve bannon and a billionaire breathing down our necks saying where is the data? where is the algorithms and our information weapons? and that's where alex ander kogan came along from cambridge who off...

Publicly underscores a key reality here. they never expected those happen. a senior democrat telling me that clinton needed time to digest this. really get her message together. the speech itself we don't know when it's coming or where it's coming. it is coming this morning. and it will be talking about healing. kind of a reflection on where this campaign needs to go. gracious was one word a democratic supporter used to describe the message that hillary clinton will try to get across. this wasn't expected to happen. devastated the word you hear over and over again. democrats asking how they co...

There fly ging, and i am comfortable with it, and we have to keep it that way. >> and matthew, the last word, quickly, because i am up against the clock. >> well, different idea, talking about the voice recorder it is not tape, but it is chips. and there was a crash in cali colombia where they found the chips and wired them back together, and read the data off of them and the guys on the mountainside tomorrow morning where they r they are going to be looking for the computer chips, but they may come up lucky. >> that is interesting to say the least. and everyone said their peace, and i appreci...