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This. they did a test with this $5 million to do a tv buy. to say, okay, cambridge, you think you should do better than the rnc and the entire machine we've built here, let's see when your test does. they came back with their tv buy, and they wound up buying d.c. cable for the trump campaign. that was the nail in the coffin to say you guys don't know what you're talking about. bannon agreed with that even. and jared agreed with it. my understanding is everyone used the rnc. the idea the trump campaign was using cambridge is a fallacy the cambridge wants everyone to believe because they're tryi...

However, alexander knicks was and is the ceo of aim bridge an lit which which was paid almost $6 million for work it did on the campaign. and when knicks reached out to julian as sang, he was specifically offering, according to my sources. of course, those e-mails have not been released or distributed. as someone who was at the top of a company that worked for the trump campaign, that's a direct link. >> josh, you were reporting inside the data operation called inside the trump bunker with 12 days to go. you heard what they said about relying on the rnc there in their statement. that's true. >...

Analytica with the success. i should mention brad pascal did tell 60 "minutes" that they didn't play a huge role. >> appreciate it. i want to bring in the panel. josh, i want to start with you. you actually sort of embedded with the campaign in the final days and wrote an article about their data operation. was this cambridge involved? zbl zbl zblae. >> yeah, they had a full team of data scientists down in san anton antonio, in trump's data headquarters. brad parscale was our host and spoke about the work they did and how their modeling was used to help decide where trump would travel based on...

Clinton. they look at that as attempted collusion. this shows a will, whether or not they affected it is a different story, ron. >> i should just make the point real quick, sorry to interrupt, that cam bridge analytica is very connected to the trump campaign, obviously. >> exactly. >> not the trump campaign specifically. >> no. they were subcontracted by the trump campaign, josh green of bloomberg who did extensive research on the data operation embedded with cambridge analytica people during the campaign, part of the data team, there have been a lot of questions about this data team, how did ...

You actually sort of embedded with the campaign in the final days and wrote an article about their data operation. was this cambridge involved? >> they had a full team of data scientists down in san antonio in trump's data headquarters. brad parscale was our host and spoke about the work they did and how their modeling was used to help decide where trump would travel based on where they thought the most gettable universal voters were. from what i understand from talking to people involved what the campaign, what you said is not accurate. i don't know if we've got our wires crossed when you tal...