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from death threats. when donald trump made james murray head of the secret service, donald trump knew he was going to need the secret service to help him hold on to the presidency. we will be talking about other things in this hour, you will hear from stacey amen, when she joins us, about the ban on abortion in georgia. which went into effect today. you will hear what happened in the steve bannon trial today. when federal prosecutors confidently rested their case after presenting just two technical witnesses, and you will see and hear, the mother of the mass murderer in uvalde texas,...

Into the electronic trails and the data trails. are you of a mind to say that today, when so many of us are sceptical about so much information we receive, cos we can't always verify it, are you saying that you believe in data more than human intel, human intelligence? do you think that data dominates all now? well, i think data should be taken seriously and it wasn't always taken seriously byjournalism as a profession. and i think there's room for traditionaljournalism, which is source—based, but there's room for independently data—based journalism. what i like about data is that you don'...

Is you rely so heavily on the deepest of deep dives into the electronic trails and the data trails. are you of a mind to say that today, when so many of us are sceptical about so much information we receive because it cannot always verify it, are you saying you believe in data more than human intel? human intelligence? do you think the data dominates all now? well, i think data should be taken seriously and it wasn't always taken seriously byjournalism as a profession. i think there is room for traditional journalism which is source—based but also room for independent database journalism. wh...