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Pro-american country so dissidents end up having their lives threatened because they talk positively about america, because they cooperated with america, and they have to leave, running for their lives, they need somewhere to go. that is how we encourage them -- >> tucker: may i ask you a question, are we pretending democracy and i despise the venezuelan government. they are evil. >> david: we agree on that. >> tucker: why are we pretending every go around the country should be democracy? do we want it in jordan, saudi arabia? that is 2003 talking point that has turned out to be ridiculous. we...

Let me ask you the question that i've asked you syria and libya. how is it america's interest directly to effect regime chains to overthrow the government of nicolas maduro? >> david: i don't agree many people in washington are calling for the u.s. to intervene right now. but the u.s. does -- >> tucker: come back to washington. >> david: i'm in new york and i left washington yesterday. but i do think this administration would like to see regime change and improve sanctions and other sort of soft power techniques. it is pushing for regime change, and i think that is appropriate. the problem is ...

They believe in form of -- >> tucker: okay, all right. we are beating russia i guess. >> david: democracy goals and becomes authoritarian countries, that ultimately will threaten us. that democracy. >> tucker: i'm sorry, but that is not true. really quick. do you like jordan to become a democracy? it is a dictate -- dictatorship do we want to have free and fair elections in jordan tomorrow? >> david: eventually come eventually all of these countries are moving towards democracy. even a place like jordan is becoming more democratic. >> tucker: let's hope not. [laughter] >> david: i'm on the kin...

North korea was the largest consumer of cognac. >> david: yesterday dutch officials were told sees 80,000 bottles of vodka that were headed for kim jong un's inner circle in north korea. because of the sanctions come of course you cannot bring that vodka in. you have to wonder, did they think they were about to celebrate some sort of big deal with 80,000 bottles of vodka? even if world peace, that is a lot of vodka. >> tucker: that is a lot of vodka a russian level would vodka. want to play, we have some sound for you it that i want you to react to. donald trump after the first north korean su...

This deal with north korea? >> harry: know and the reason i say that, i think donald trump understands this is the time to make history. this is a once a once-in-a-lifetime chance to end the korean war and actually have peace. this is the thing, tucker, we set here in 2017, let me tell you, we came close to nuclear war. i think the president will have blinders on and how to bring this home. >> tucker: interesting, thank you very much. on a terrific thing that is happening in hanoi, life images on the screen. the president's summit to avert a possible war on the korean peninsula but the other s...